Fair Open Source

[jsuchal]

Radovan Semancik napisal zaujimavy navrh ohladom Open Source. https://wiki.evolveum.com/display/midPoint/Fair+Open+Source

TL;DR je toto, ale treba to precitat cele.

Feed your open source developer
This is a long text. However, the basic idea is simple:
Support sustainable open source ecosystem. Prefer business partners that are also supporting this model.
Personal use of open source software is always OK.
When you use open source in a company that generates profit, contribute back to the ecosystem:
Contribute back to the project you are using
Pay a salary of a professional developers that works on the project
Regularly donate to the project
Use the money to fund your own open source project
Purchase a subscription from product authors (if available)

Odporucam si pred urychlenymi sudmi precitat aj priklady dobreho a zleho spravania v zavere, aby bolo jasnejsie preco je to problem. Z toho co viem su to realne skusenosti aj z SK egov sceny.

Providing commercial support services for open source product and not contributing nor funding it is bad. If you make profit that depends on the existence of an open source product you should contribute part of that profit to the product. You should contribute your time and become part-time developer of that product. Or you should spend time on documentation maintenance, localization ... there is always a lot of work to do. If you cannot do anything like that then you should send money to the developers. But taking the money and keeping everything for yourself is not a good behavior.

Co Vy na to? Napady kde by toto mohlo stroskotat a ako to presadit?

[mirom]

Pohlad z weboveho sektora - myslim si, ze hlavny problem je vo velkosti slovenskeho trhu. Robim s Drupalom a pokym som robil pre slovenske firmy a slovenskych klientov, tak bolo skoro nemozne robit akukolvek contribution. V zahranicnych firmach, pre ktore som robil/robim, mame vyhradeny cas cca 1 den za tyzden na contribution a platili sme core developera. Samozrejmostou je reportovanie bugov a ked ten bug fixnes, tak sa samozrejme podelis s patchom.
Zo slovenskej egov sceny - pri projekte pre jednu prispevkovu organizaciu sme vyprodukovali par patchov, ktore boli nasledne zahnute do Drupalu.
Zo svetovej egov sceny - Nemecko a Australia maju Drupal instalacne profily, pri tvorbe ktorych vyprodukovali niekolko desiatok patchov.
Myslim si teda ze zaciatkom je vo firmach zautomatizovat contribution, aby mali ludia zauzivane ze patch automaticky poskytnu maintainerovi.
Este by som dodal, ze mam skusenost, ze vela firiem podporuje meetupy a konferencie, ci uz financne, ludskymi zdrojmi alebo materialne, a komunita to casto krat nevnima ako contribution, lebo to nie je kod. Aky mate na toto nazor? Ja to povazujem za rovnocenne ako kod, takisto ako UX testovanie, ci samotny manazment vyvoja nejakeho os produktu.

[hanecak]

Jedna firma skusa najst riesenie, ktore by ulahcilo prispievat firmam na FLOSS projekty ktore pouzivaju:

How Gratipay helps solve the 'free rider' problem

V clanku je ako ilustracia problemu uvedny projekt OpenSSL:

One of the most extreme examples of the "free rider" problem came in the form of OpenSSL's Heartbleed vulnerability back in 2014. The project was being maintained by a single developer working for well under a normal salary, yet over half the world wide web was dependent upon his work.

[jsuchal]

Ja ti nevim. Ak to existuje od 2012 a dnes tam rozdeluju 800$ tyzdenne, tak to je dost bieda nie? Asi ten problem nebude v tom, ze by firmy nevedeli ako prispievat alebo to bolo zlozite.

[hanecak]

Tiez ma to ako celok trapi (asi ako Radovana) a tiez mi konkretne ten Gratipay pripada nie dobry (asi ako Teba). Clanok teda nepredstavuje riesenie, ale aspon podporuje Radovanov argument (ze teda trapi to aj inych a skusaju riesit).

Podla mna to bude zo skatulky "zlozite", kedze je to prierezova aktivita:

• developer (ten co pouziva nejake FLOSS komponenty) vie co ma v stacku ale sam z firemnych penazi asi donation nespravi a presviedcat riaditela moze vnimat ako nadpracu, navyse zrejme aj tazku
• riaditel firemne peniaze moze poslat ale nevie komu, ani vlastne nevie preco ked "je to free" a na konci ho pripadne este dorazi uctovnictvo, ak si donation nevie dat do nakladov
• developer (autor FLOSS komponentu) nemusi mat po ruke firmu ci neziskovku, na ktoru by legalne mohol prijimat peniaze a vydavat uctovne doklady

(a tu som teda zatial pitval len contribution vo forme penazi)

Cize drzim palce (Radovi aj dalsim), ale okrem pindania pomoct neviem (okrem obcasnej kontribucie a este obcasnejsich financnych prispevkov).